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WE'RE BACK! -- Under New Management!

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:14 pm
by zemming
Hello everyone!

Since the other post is 14 pages long, and the information is a bit hard to find, I figured I would make another post that makes it easier to understand what is going on.

Myself, mrc0mmand, DDBProductions, yetanothername, and callumgare are working on the second printing. We started in early February, and we have been making good progress, so I feel safe when I say we are doing a second printing!


To answer a few quick questions:
How do I buy the book?
Right now, you can't. That's what we're working on. You can always print your own though if you want.

ERMEHGERD A SECOND PRINTING! WHERE DO I SIGN UP! / SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!
We don't have signups open right now, and it's too early to say for sure when they will be open. We want to open them as soon as we can, but we have work to do on our end before we can nail down a date. More on that in a bit.
I would recommend subscribing to the RSS feed, to get notifications when new stuff is posted.


Now on to the second printing details:

The first printing was a 5 book set, one volume per book, and cost around $86 for people in the US. We want to get the cost down so more people can afford the books, since that seems to be a deal breaker for a lot of people. So, we are completely reformatting FO:E and will be printing two books instead of five. The first book will have volumes one two and three, and the second book will have volumes four and five. The reformatting will also reduce the page count, which combine with only printing two books, should lower the cost. Shipping will be marginally cheaper just because the books should be lighter and take up less spaaace, but if you are outside the US, plan on the shipping being expensive regardless.

Right now, I am working on the formatting and am making good progress, but it's a long road, and it takes time. Formatting is really what will determine when signups are open, since I don't want to start taking names until I know I have files I can send to the printer.

Myself and the others working on the project are usually on IRC on canternet at #FalloutEquestriaBook. If you don't have a client, you can join using the mibbit web client.

Just a note, if you do stop by, we aren't all staring at the chat, and we're in different timezones. So don't be deterred if no one respond immediately, just wait a bit.


Other that that, if you have any questions, feel free to post them here. I also can be reached on IRC as zemming. Anyone voiced and above (they have a +, %, @, or ~ in front of their name) is working on the project and should be able to answer questions. If you need to PM someone, please ask before hand. Finally I can be reached by email at zemming@zemming.org.


P.S. Arcane_Scroll wanted me to mention that he is not involved in the printing. Please don't spam his email asking questions he won't be able to answer.


EDIT: added callumgare to the list of people actively working on the project.

Re: WE'RE BACK! -- Under New Management!

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:57 pm
by sorathecrow
[strike]When you're closer to being ready to print, do you have any plans to make a demo that you can take a few pictures of and post so we can get a preview of what it looks like?[/strike]

They might get a proof before they print, but he doesn't know for sure yet because he hasn't talked to the printer about it. Thanks! Good luck with the work. :pinkiehappy:

Re: WE'RE BACK! -- Under New Management!

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 1:25 pm
by Jusey1
I'm so in for this! *Insert la face here*

Re: WE'RE BACK! -- Under New Management!

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 4:47 pm
by zemming
I responded to sorathecrow on IRC. He pretty much summed up what I said there. I obviously would like to get a proof before it goes to print, but I haven't talked to the printer about that yet. So I can't really guarantee anything.

Re: WE'RE BACK! -- Under New Management!

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:58 am
by MeatyMuffin
zemming wrote:he first printing was a 5 book set, one volume per book, and cost around $86 for people in the US. We want to get the cost down so more people can afford the books, since that seems to be a deal breaker for a lot of people. So, we are completely reformatting FO:E and will be printing two books instead of five. The first book will have volumes one two and three, and the second book will have volumes four and five.


Eh... I'd much rather have the five book set. I'm not overly concerned about the cost.

Re: WE'RE BACK! -- Under New Management!

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:48 am
by SilverlightPony
MeatyMuffin wrote:
zemming wrote:he first printing was a 5 book set, one volume per book, and cost around $86 for people in the US. We want to get the cost down so more people can afford the books, since that seems to be a deal breaker for a lot of people. So, we are completely reformatting FO:E and will be printing two books instead of five. The first book will have volumes one two and three, and the second book will have volumes four and five.


Eh... I'd much rather have the five book set. I'm not overly concerned about the cost.

Strongly agreed. I already have a set from the first printing, but I'm considering getting a second set, and I'd much rather have the individual volumes not be doorstoppers.

That said, while you're doing the reformatting anyway, may I requrest a single-volume ebook version with all the fancy formatting from the print? (i.e., the terminal-like typeface for terminal messages; the images for section breaks, memory orb transitions, and chapter-header pictures; etc.)



[EDIT]
A bit of poking around the internet has shown that smaller books/volumes put less physical stress on the bindings, and so are less likely to wear out or fall apart.

Re: WE'RE BACK! -- Under New Management!

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:58 am
by Kipper
Yeah, I gotta agree with the others. The idea of having five different books rather than two thick ones appeals to me more.
It means that they're a lot less hassle to take places if I want to read outside of being at home and I imagine it'd look better too.
I do understand where you're coming from, of course, but personally I'd pay a higher price for it anyway.

Re: WE'RE BACK! -- Under New Management!

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 12:20 pm
by yetanothername
Kipper wrote:Yeah, I gotta agree with the others. The idea of having five different books rather than two thick ones appeals to me more.
It means that they're a lot less hassle to take places if I want to read outside of being at home and I imagine it'd look better too.
I do understand where you're coming from, of course, but personally I'd pay a higher price for it anyway.


A bit of rough estimation puts the two volumes at roughly 700 pages each. For reference the Past Sins print was about 660.

Additionally the way the Volumes are formatted makes no sense if you consider the fact that Chapter 36 is larger than the first volume. If the volumes were slightly more even in size I'd agree with you however because of the huge discrepancy it simply makes no sense to print three books that are ~200 pages and two that are ~400.

Re: WE'RE BACK! -- Under New Management!

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:18 pm
by sorathecrow
At first I was skeptical about the size of the two books, but then I went over and looked at a few of my Wheel of Time books: those are regularly about the size of what one of these volumes would be, and they don't seem THAT big. Besides, in the end, it's all one story anyway. How it's divided up doesn't really matter to me.

Re: WE'RE BACK! -- Under New Management!

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2014 4:04 pm
by SilverlightPony
yetanothername wrote:A bit of rough estimation puts the two volumes at roughly 700 pages each. For reference the Past Sins print was about 660.

Just because we did it one way and someone else did it another way doesn't in any way, shape, or form mean we should change.